We have
been talking a lot about leadership in my Stanford class on Organizational
Behavior: An Evidence-based Approach. Last week, we had a pretty
detailed discussion about how and why putting people into powerful positions
seems to turn them into selfish jerks. I was also thinking about power
earlier today when a German journalist from Chrimson interviewed me about Der
Arschloch-Faktor. I was initially amazed that I was being interviewed
by a religious organization -- but the journalist who interviewed my argued
that the no asshole rule was, indeed, quite consistent with the golden
rule. He wrote me that "We are financed by the The Evangelical
Church in Germany (EKD), and therefore very interested in topics that deal with
how human-beings interact, since that is what religion is all about."
I will
likely blog about religion and the no asshole rule more in a few weeks.
But today I am going to focus on the question that reporter asked, "Are assholes born or
made?"
I am sure that there are some people who are genetically pre-disposed to be
nasty and there are some people who -- perhaps as a result of emotional and/or
physical abuse during childhood -- turn into assholes. But there is also strong
evidence that, no matter what our "personality" is, we all can
turn into assholes under the wrong conditions.
Asshole
poisoning as a disease that you catch from others, and I talk a lot about
that in the book. It is also something that happens -- with shocking speed and
intensity -- when people are put in powerful positions. My colleague at the
Stanford Business School Deborah
Gurenfeld and her colleagues have been studying the effects of power on
human beings for over years, and the findings are clear: power turns people
into selfish and insensitive jerks, who act as if the the rules that the rest of
us have to follow don't apply to them.
Perhaps
the best quick summary of this research is an article San Francisco
Chronicle last Fall called on power and its evil effects, The article
summarizes this large body of research -- now hundreds of studies -- as
follows:
Research
documents the following characteristics of people with power: They tend to be
more oblivious to what others think, more likely to pursue the satisfaction of
their own appetites, poorer judges of other people's reactions, more likely to
hold stereotypes, overly optimistic and more likely to take risks.
It quotes one of Gruenfeld's main conclusions:
Disinhibition
is the very root of power," said Stanford Professor Deborah Gruenfeld, a
social psychologist who focuses on the study of power. "For most people,
what we think of as 'power plays' aren't calculated and Machiavellian
-- they happen at the subconscious level. Many of those internal
regulators that hold most of us back from bold or bad behavior diminish or
disappear. When people feel powerful, they stop trying to 'control themselves.'
To illustrate how rapidly such dis inhibition can happen, it
describes the lovely little "cookie study" done by Gruenfeld and her
colleagues:
One of the simplest and yet most fascinating
experiments to test the thesis is the "cookie crumbles" experiment.
Researchers placed college students in groups of three and gave them an
artificial assignment -- collaboration on a short policy paper
about a social issue. They then randomly assigned one of the students to
evaluate the other two for points that would affect their ability to win a cash
bonus. Having set up this artificial power hierarchy, researchers then casually
brought to working trios plates containing five cookies.
They
found that not only did the disinhibited "powerful" students eat more
than their share of the cookies, they were more likely to chew with their
mouths open and to scatter crumbs over the table.
The story also includes the personal experience that Gruenfeld often uses to
start her talks on the effects of power:
Gruenfeld
offers a similar example from her career in journalism when she occasionally
met with Rolling Stone publisher Jann Wenner. She recalls that he routinely
would swig vodka from a bottle and eat raw onions -- without ever offering
to share -- "and it never even occurred to the rest of us,
because it was understood that he had the power and we did not."
The cookie study and the Rolling Stone story are just bits of evidence -- this
pattern is supported by hundreds of studies. The upshot off all this
research is that power turns people into insensitive and selfish jerks, so any
of us who are put in position of power are at risk of asshole poisoning.
There is also an interesting twist, however, that -- if you look at Jim Collins
findings about Level 5 leaders in Good to Great as well as less
well-known, but more rigorous academic research -- leaders who who are
able to avoid the poison, and instead focus on the needs of the people
around them, are apparently more likely to lead more effective organizations.
So there are good reasons to find ways to resist such poison. Some of the best
ways are to reduce status differences between people at different levels and to
have as few hierarchical levels as possible. Another way is to learn how
to listen more and talk less.
P.S. The main academic article where that summarizes this research is "Power,
Approach and Inhibition" and was published in the Psychological
Review. Also check out this study just
summarized by U.S. News and World Report on how
power makes it harder for people to see the world from the perspective of
underlings.
This website is my stress reducer after dealing with my boss (who rates 17 out of 20 on the BRASS test) and also, dealing with the new responsibilities that I have as a new manager.
I think that when ever I am angry with the last "test", snide remark about my abilities, or just plain stupid decision that he has made that I have to deal with, I will instead focus on how I am letting his behavior effect my treatment of those that report to me.
As mentioned several times on this site, it is easy to become insensitive as a boss and not realize it, even when you are not an asshole. This is a danger even when working for a good boss. It is even more important to focus on avoiding this insensitivity when your are constantly dealing with an asshole.
Posted by: Linda | November 14, 2010 at 08:59 AM
"Are assholes born or made?"
I think everybody has a potential of being an asshole. But, having a different level of awareness,conscience,culture, moral value, makes people being assholes or being nice.
Either way, interesting topic.
Posted by: Petra Taseva | April 07, 2010 at 05:04 AM
This book is also available in Russian language.
Posted by: Jon Abbas | November 15, 2009 at 11:02 AM
Great topic. I've seen this in action too many times to count. I can also imagine that such a dynamic plays out in romantic relationships when one person has the power for some reason, e.g. he/she is the primary or sole breadwinner.
Posted by: Ron Gentile | April 17, 2009 at 08:19 AM
Hi Professor Sutton, a fantastic topic indeed. I think its very important to separate the power hungry phenomenon from the asshole phenomenon. The latter is something that can be observed even amongst those without power - it has more to do with values, perspective, etc. The former is entirely an acquired effect.
My hypothesis is that the effect occurs when the position of power is established through some kind of "rite of passage" - for example, working crazy hours, perhaps paying large amounts of tuition and life balance in grad school, etc. Indeed, the times when I in my own life inadvertently felt "superior" to others, whether I deserved to or not, were times when I really really worked hard for something and felt like I had earned a position of accomplishment or power in a way that those who didn't/couldn't have earned. It isn't just the exclusivity of power, it is the dynamic of having made a very large personal investment and then feeling some sort of entitlement to a return on that investment.
I actually believe that power by itself is a very healthy concept. For example, I think its very important that the President of the United States is pampered, even in a bad economy - because he makes decisions that affect a lot of people and his job is not always fun. Unless we made it fun, no one would want the job. And for all the ills we say of the perks that businesspeople, lawyers, doctors enjoy, I'm sorta glad those perks exist, because these are all professions that take a lot of very specific non-commoditized skill and there should be incentives for people to go through the rigorous training.
The dysfunction occurs when those in power do not have the values and perspective to exercise it correctly - i.e they are assholes as people. So ultimately, I still believe it is not power that corrupts all, but that there are those who are simply more corruptible. What makes them corruptible, I think, is a different area of study.
Posted by: Murthy | March 24, 2009 at 01:20 AM
RAE,
Thanks for your extremely thoughtful and detailed comments,and I want to second the emotion on Snakes in Suits, it is a very well-crafted and useful book.
Bob
Posted by: Bob Sutton | June 06, 2007 at 09:36 PM
This is a fascinating topic and unfortunate reality. Based on several employment experiences reporting to dysfunction organizational leaders (thus dysfunctional companies), I began researching leadership to try to understand the pattern and bizarre experiences. The question I have been seeking to answer is whether people with certain traits are more likely to become leaders or if the leadership position causes one to become ill. When I say ill, I do mean it. The leaders that I have encountered fit the diagnostic descriptions of DMS IV psychiatric disorders such as narcissistic personality disorder, sociopathic and psychopathic personalities.
Your power perception makes a great deal of sense but I think it is much more complicated than that. These people are dangerous to others, not physically, but psychologically and legally. In extreme forms, they know no bounds. The leaders I have encountered have been very intelligent, held positions of high power, or were protected by those in high places. The prevalence of these troubled people abusing their power in the workplace is absolutely astounding to me. I also have begun to realize that the depth of the problem is only seen by some people. Most people see and experience these leaders' behavior but only recognize the symptoms and don't fully grasp the horror and gravity of their true problems. That is probably a good thing as that is how they remain employed. Readers interested in a recommended book on this topic can check out "SNAKES IN SUITS, When Psychopaths go to work", by Paul Babiak, Ph.D. & Robert D. Hare, Ph.D.
Posted by: RAE | June 06, 2007 at 08:42 PM
Please blog about religion and assholes. I have a mean spirited, but mealy mouthed, female boss who is one of the most evil, bullying bosses I have ever worked for, but she sports a Bible quote on her wall and a sign that says "Mean People Need Not Apply."
She has destroyed careers when it suits her, she badmouths her enemies, who tend to be various people who work under her, she divides the staff into her pals and her targets and rewards her pals when they align with her in defaming the targets.
Did I mention that she is a control freak?
I think she's going to hell.
Posted by: Tonny | June 04, 2007 at 02:47 PM
It isn't just having power that can turn people into assholes - wanting power in daily relations can, too. "The Exception" by Christian Jungersen describes this brilliantly - how people supposedly acting to do good can be horribly mean to eachother. I cannot recommend it enough for this description - even though the book later on turns into a action novel.
Posted by: Anobi | February 02, 2007 at 04:30 AM
Well as Stilgar points out the original meaning of the Fremen 'naib' is 'servant of the people'. :). We've known for a long-time what an L5 leader should do - otherwise why would Harun al-Rashid be famous for walking the streets of Baghdad ? But how to train leaders and inculcate that wisdom more frequently is an interesting problem.
If anyone's interested one of the best examples of a Level 6 leader who pursued great goals but enlisted the active support of extremely strong and wilful subordinates is in 'Team of Rivals'.
Closer to home the military seems to do a better job these days by creating great leaders at all levels by emphasing the responsibilities and trusts required for coherence in stressful situations. Perhaps some lessona and techniques that could be adopted in the private sector ?
Thanks for the pointers.
Posted by: dblwyo | January 31, 2007 at 09:24 AM
Maureen,
I think you have nailed it. We are capable of being demeaning and of being inconsiderate pigs. Being occasional or temporary assholes, the questions are:
1. Are we in a place where people feel safe -- even obligated -- to stop us.
2. Are we the kind of person who others feel safe to send the message to?
3. Are we the kind of person who can hear and learn from the message?
Posted by: Bob Sutton | January 31, 2007 at 07:28 AM
There are three factors that make it hard to stay realistic, let alone humble, as you climb the ladder of success.
The Reality Distortion Field effect. The higher you go, the more people tell you want you want to hear instead of what you need to hear. Result: You only hear "news" that agrees with you.
The Ass-Kiss Factor. People will jump to do things to please you. "The wish of the commander has the effect of an order." Result: you smallest wishes are instantly gratified.
The Competitive Advantage. Most folks who climb high on the corporate ladder are competitive by nature. Often they're too competitive and need to win all the time, even when discussing things with subordinates. Result: people don't push hard, because you have power over them and you get the idea that you're always right.
Posted by: Wally Bock | January 31, 2007 at 07:26 AM
And, of course, a side effect of "asshole poisoning" is that the behavior of those vicitimized by it is also poisoned. Consider how us underlings respond to the overly optimistic, risk-taking, vodka-swilling, onion eating, etc asshole boss.We let him/her rant and rage, inwardly rolling our eyes, but we are not as likely to put our ideas, suggestions, warnings forth as strongly as we would if we were working for a non-asshole. Afterwards, we mutter, moan, or laugh about bad behavior, ignore or execute stupid orders, etc. But decisions and results are unlikely to be as effective as they would be if the head person were not an asshole.
(on the other hand, as you have often observed, even a non-asshole is capable of an occasional lapse - like cookie hogging and chewing with your mouth open - but with one of these occasional assholes, you can call them on their behavior, and the atmosphere is not poisoned.)
Posted by: Maureen Rogers | January 31, 2007 at 05:37 AM